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REQURED warnings on digitally altered pics

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Conservative Member of UK Parliament proposes bill that would require digitally altered pics to be labeled as such.

Just a reminder: there HAVE been similar proposals in the US and among several other European countries but...they have been stalled?

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The very act of publishing an image online alters it to some extent. Also, is cropping, color adjustment, rotating, etc "altering"?

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Pariah wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:07 pm

The very act of publishing an image online alters it to some extent. Also, is cropping, color adjustment, rotating, etc "altering"?

Sure, but you know that is NOT what is being talked about here, and probably is the problem facing these proposal everywhere: how to define properly "an unhealthily altered body image". Removal of how many virtual pounds would constitute "being unhealthy"?

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DEyncourt wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:25 pm
Pariah wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:07 pm

The very act of publishing an image online alters it to some extent. Also, is cropping, color adjustment, rotating, etc "altering"?

Sure, but you know that is NOT what is being talked about here, and probably is the problem facing these proposal everywhere: how to define properly "an unhealthily altered body image". Removal of how many virtual pounds would constitute "being unhealthy"?

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Blah, blah, blah.
People have been trying to blame images for causing women to want to be skinnier than is healthy for a solid 55 years now.
Meanwhile every fiddlesticks year women get fatter and fatter and fatter. The problem I se is not that women try to be too skinny, the problem I see is a vast flood of pro-obesity health misinformation misleading women into thinking that being 200lbs over weight is perfectly healthy.

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i don't see how it would be possible to manage something like this

although the deal with cookies unfolded pretty smoothly, so ...

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Pariah wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 3:50 pm

Blah, blah, blah.
People have been trying to blame images for causing women to want to be skinnier than is healthy for a solid 55 years now.
Meanwhile every stick fiddling year women get fatter and fatter and fatter. The problem I se is not that women try to be too skinny, the problem I see is a vast flood of pro-obesity health misinformation misleading women into thinking that being 200lbs over weight is perfectly healthy.

I can see altered images contributing to self esteem and disordered eating. But yeah, this growing collective delusion that being overweight is healthy is dismaying. Those beliefs are growing stronger and stronger every day in the circles I frequent, and I don't even know how to have the conversation anymore with a lot of women I otherwise respect. Yes, as a society we put too much pressure on individuals, but at the end of the day, it is your body and your responsibility. Band together to make being healthier easier - stop helping each other to stick heads in the sand.

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The bigger issue is that whether being overweight is healthy, it's not others' place to point it out to you.

One of the largest triggers for overeating is depression, and one of the largest triggers for depression is social abuse.

You can think whatever you want about the unhealthiness of someone's weight, but the moment you point it out to them, the odds are that you are causing them direct harm by pointing it out and are not contributing to a solution.

When I was significantly overweight, before losing ~80 pounds, every person thought that it was their responsibility and their right to comment on my weight. And whether people want to admit it or not, when you create an environment where someone is scared of constantly running into people who will harass them, that's abuse, and it's contributing to abuse.

I really think it has to do with having a culture where every person is pushed to try to find things wrong with others in order to avoid having negative attention focused on themselves.

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That's not what I'm talking about at all, obvs. I highly doubt you spend nearly the amount of time interacting with 40-something women as I do. There is a strong trend towards claiming that being overweight is actually perfectly healthy and any evidence to the contrary is biased lies.

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I think the industrial food lobby is behind a lot of this. Over the last 50 years out food supply has become contaminated with cheap, artificial poisons, particularly sugar and sugar analogues.
And I get the struggle. In currently weight 50lbs less than my max weight and it was not easy dropping all those pounds but if I had not I'd likely be dead by now.

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Yup. Healthy food is expensive and time consuming. Staying active is difficult for a lot of reasons. Society needs to change to make these things easier for people. It's wrong to put all the pressure on the individual.

But it breaks my heart when I see anti-weightloss discussions and a woman will comment that losing weight is what got her diabetes under control or helped relieve her joint pain, only to watch a bunch of other women shut her down and treat her like a traitor. It's like so much of the rest of the world these days - facts just don't matter anymore.

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I just had a doctors appointment with one of these Woman (she was obese) and it wasted me off so much. A gastroenterologist who told me I was too skinny and that I wasn't eating enough.

I've weighed pretty much the same weight from my 20s into my 30s and had actually gained weight the past year & she sits there and tells me that I'm underweight and not eating right. My BMI is 19.4 and I've gone up underwear size from a medium to large (US 35 is in between sizes M is 32-34 and large is 36-38. I used to wear a Medium as I had a 34" waist but now I'm at 35 and some odd change so went up to a large). Her remarks really wasted me off.

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