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The Cairo Desktop Environment for Windows

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https://cairoshell.com/

It takes a bit of getting used to, but DAMN is it better than the wet steaming turd that is the Windows 10 desktop environment. I'm still configuring it, but I am already liking my Windows 10 system a lot more.

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Oooh... That looks quite a bit nicer than the standard Win 10 desktop environment. I might need to try that out!

How difficult was the install?

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To install? Not very.

To setup? I'm still working on it. It feels very similar to some of the Linux DE's in a way. I like it because it gets out of the way.

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maurvir wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:29 pm

To install? Not very.

To setup? I'm still working on it. It feels very similar to some of the Linux DE's in a way. I like it because it gets out of the way.

Pretty similar to Cinnamon.

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I really dislike when people try to copy macOS but completely miss the functionality of the aspects of the OS they're trying to copy.

It's really frustrating when they put menus in the same place as a macOS menu and give it the same kind of look but give it functionality which is specifically drastically different and not intended to be similar.

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This, as Par pointed out, is closer to Cinnamon than MacOS. It doesn't attempt to replicate much of the MacOS DE at all.

It's also a bit buggy, but when it does work, it makes using Windows far less icky.

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Unfortunately, I'm going to have to quit using this. It has proven to be a bit unstable, which makes sense - it is prerelease. After a short while, it appears to start hanging until eventually Windows kills it and restarts explorer.

I will definitely keep an eye on it, though, as this is the sort of minimal desktop I would love on my Windows machines.

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obvs wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:47 pm

I really dislike when people try to copy macOS but completely miss the functionality of the aspects of the OS they're trying to copy.

It's really frustrating when they put menus in the same place as a macOS menu and give it the same kind of look but give it functionality which is specifically drastically different and not intended to be similar.

I don't see any copying of MacOS going on here.
I do agree that mimicking the MacOS in another is a losers game. Making a desktop look similar to MacOS but working very differently gets you nowhere. Linux taskbar/menu style desktops work because it is SUPER easy to design one better than the wasteful way Microsoft designed things.

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It's absolutely copying macOS.

The functionality may be Cinnamon, but the appearance is absolutely very blatantly macOS.

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obvs wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:05 pm

It's absolutely copying macOS.

The functionality may be Cinnamon, but the appearance is absolutely very blatantly macOS.

Not even close. Just because a thing is not ugly does not mean it is an Apple copy.

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You're not exactly up on macOS or what it looks like now. You bowed out years ago, right?

The spacing, sizing, font choice, and even gradients are straight out of macOS Monterey.

Their functionality has nothing to do with macOS, but the appearance is dead-on macOS Monterey(and Big Sur, before it).

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obvs wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:48 pm

You're not exactly up on macOS or what it looks like now. You bowed out years ago, right?

The spacing, sizing, font choice, and even gradients are straight out of macOS Monterey.

Their functionality has nothing to do with macOS, but the appearance is dead-on macOS Monterey(and Big Sur, before it).

It may be inspired by MacOS, but you can take one look at it and realize that it's not MacOS. Maybe the developer likes the aesthetic look and feel, but this is, in no way, a copy.

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I said that the appearance is a copy even though the functionality isn't, and yes, they made it so similar that it even fooled me for a moment.

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My first thought too was “That looks like macOS —oh wait, it’s not…”

Menu bar at the top divided into left and right sides. Left side contains a special menu followed by menu items, while on the right side you have quick settings, date/time and search. At the bottom you have a center-justified task bar. Thematically, it’s a mishmash of macOS design notes from the past several iterations of macOS with a hints of Windows 98 because why not?

While it is easy to spot the differences, at first glance it definitely looks like macOS.

IMO, the best Linux DEs are the ones that copy Windows, but with an improved control panel UI. The ones that try to copy Apple are the worst because the central feature of the mac’s user experience is that it is document-centric rather than window-centric like you find every other OS. And when you try to shoehorn GTK or X or whatever into a Mac-like DE, the user experience comes off as clumsy and awkward.

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I wish someone would produce a non-crap desktop environment for Windows, since Microsoft won't. The cinnamon interface would be perfect.

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maurvir wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:52 am

I wish someone would produce a non-crap desktop environment for Windows, since Microsoft won't. The cinnamon interface would be perfect.

Cinnamon has matured into a really great DE with a really nice control panel setup and a very good file manager. There is no aspect of Cinnamon that is not superior to the equivalent in Windows.

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