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Pariah Know Your Enemy
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I ran the recent update for iOS a couple of days ago and today I went to set an alarm and discovered that Apple has completely stick fiddled up the clock app. It was so clean and easy to use, now it is a stick fiddled up mess.

Any suggestions for a third party clock app now that the one Apple provides is junk?
Pariah posted:
I ran the recent update for iOS a couple of days ago and today I went to set an alarm and discovered that Apple has completely stick fiddled up the clock app. It was so clean and easy to use, now it is a stick fiddled up mess.

Any suggestions for a third party clock app now that the one Apple provides is junk?


Welcome to the new. Yeah I was like WTF at first, but am used to it now.
Donkey Butter jerk face
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am I missing something here. the only change I notice is that you have to type in the time you want instead of scrolling the wheel things.
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Donkey Butter posted:
am I missing something here. the only change I notice is that you have to type in the time you want instead of scrolling the wheel things.

That is what I am on about.Such a crude and inelegant design change.
Metacell Chocolate Brahma
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I don't use any of that whatever-fangled nonsense, but in seriousness from a business point of view, why not allow both?
gd Hero of Twilight
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I prefer typing the time. It’s faster than scrolling.
Malkin kick 'em in the face; taste the body
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I HATED the scrolling. So much easier to make a mistake.
Scrolling was more fun, typing is more efficient, but I tend to just tell Siri "Set an alarm for 6:35," or "Set a timer for 5 minutes."
dv
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I'm not seeing any of this: when I told it to set an alarm, it shoved me over into the Apple Health app and made me set up a bunch of other sleep tracking stuff before it would wake me up. Now I'm afraid to change it.
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dv posted:
I'm not seeing any of this: when I told it to set an alarm, it shoved me over into the Apple Health app and made me set up a bunch of other sleep tracking stuff before it would wake me up. Now I'm afraid to change it.

Ta, don't get me started on all that blatherskite. Do non-brain damaged people have that much trouble keeping track of their sleep?
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It's called insomnia.

Have a little compassion.
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obvs posted:
It's called insomnia.

Have a little compassion.

I have had plenty of abttles with insomnia and there is no software that could possibly help with that.
Weed works well tho. :stoned:
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Software can be used to keep track of it.

There are also medical afflictions which can affect sleep, and sometimes people make a concerted effort to get more sleep.
mmaverick my steady systematic decline
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Malkin posted:
I HATED the scrolling. So much easier to make a mistake.



Yup. After my initial “what the hell is this” of about 10 seconds, I was happy.
Pariah Know Your Enemy
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So...Is Siri now useless or is there some trick to get it to work like before the update? Now I just get that weird multi-colored orb but Siri will not answer any questions, just says "that is an interesting question and then quits.
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Pariah posted:
So...Is Siri now useless or is there some trick to get it to work like before the update? Now I just get that weird multi-colored orb but Siri will not answer any questions, just says "that is an interesting question and then quits.


Maybe she knows you keep talking trash about Apple ;)

Sorry, I don't know.

But I do keep reading everywhere about how Alexa and the google assistant are so much better.
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Siri sucks precisely because Apple favors user privacy over functionality. So there is your trade-off. You have more privacy on an iGadget, but the apps don't work nearly as well.
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Me, closing down the house at night when everybody is sleeping: ::whispers:: "Alexa, lights out."

Alexa: "ARE YOU WHISPERING?! YOU CAN TURN ON WHISPER MODE BY SAYING, 'ALEXA, WHISPER MODE!'"
ukimalefu want, but shouldn't, may anyway
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Robert B. posted:
Me, closing down the house at night when everybody is sleeping: ::whispers:: "Alexa, lights out."

Alexa: "ARE YOU WHISPERING?! YOU CAN TURN ON WHISPER MODE BY SAYING, 'ALEXA, WHISPER MODE!'"


Artificial "intelligence"
Pariah Know Your Enemy
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maurvir posted:
Siri sucks precisely because Apple favors user privacy over functionality. So there is your trade-off. You have more privacy on an iGadget, but the apps don't work nearly as well.

I am not comparing Siri to any other virtual assistant, I am comparing Siri today vs the Siri I had before the last big update. It seems Siri will no longer do a web search for you, or I just don't know the new trick required to get it to do so.
Ask Siri: How high above sea level am I? It responds that is an interesting question. Use voice entry in Google search I get the reply 39ft.
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Pariah posted:
maurvir posted:
Siri sucks precisely because Apple favors user privacy over functionality. So there is your trade-off. You have more privacy on an iGadget, but the apps don't work nearly as well.

I am not comparing Siri to any other virtual assistant, I am comparing Siri today vs the Siri I had before the last big update. It seems Siri will no longer do a web search for you, or I just don't know the new trick required to get it to do so.
Ask Siri: How high above sea level am I? It responds that is an interesting question. Use voice entry in Google search I get the reply 39ft.

Confirmed as to Siri
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While I am complaining about iOS...How the fiddlesticks do you close every window in Safari? It just annoying the stick fiddling human waste out of me how Safari just keeps accumulating open windows till there are an absolutely crazy number all stacked up. Even more galling is that even quitting Safari does nothing, it returns to the state it was in before it was shut down.
Is there any way to make Safari work like a real browser that discards all open windows on shutdown? This mania that Apple has for making it nearly impossible to discard....anything really, is getting beyond old.
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Pariah posted:
While I am complaining about iOS...How the fiddlesticks do you close every window in Safari? It just annoying the stick fiddling human waste out of me how Safari just keeps accumulating open windows till there are an absolutely crazy number all stacked up. Even more galling is that even quitting Safari does nothing, it returns to the state it was in before it was shut down.
Is there any way to make Safari work like a real browser that discards all open windows on shutdown? This mania that Apple has for making it nearly impossible to discard....anything really, is getting beyond old.


Touch and hold the lower-right double-square (tab selection?) button and you should get a menu with an option to close all tabs.
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dv posted:
Pariah posted:
While I am complaining about iOS...How the fiddlesticks do you close every window in Safari? It just annoying the stick fiddling human waste out of me how Safari just keeps accumulating open windows till there are an absolutely crazy number all stacked up. Even more galling is that even quitting Safari does nothing, it returns to the state it was in before it was shut down.
Is there any way to make Safari work like a real browser that discards all open windows on shutdown? This mania that Apple has for making it nearly impossible to discard....anything really, is getting beyond old.


Touch and hold the lower-right double-square (tab selection?) button and you should get a menu with an option to close all tabs.

Thank you.
Pariah posted:
maurvir posted:
Siri sucks precisely because Apple favors user privacy over functionality. So there is your trade-off. You have more privacy on an iGadget, but the apps don't work nearly as well.

I am not comparing Siri to any other virtual assistant, I am comparing Siri today vs the Siri I had before the last big update. It seems Siri will no longer do a web search for you, or I just don't know the new trick required to get it to do so.
Ask Siri: How high above sea level am I? It responds that is an interesting question. Use voice entry in Google search I get the reply 39ft.

While I've never asked Siri about elevation before, testing this I also had her say "Interesting question" when I asked "How high above sea level am I?"

But when I asked "What's my elevation?" the response was "350 ft." Still not perfect, as I would have preferred meters.
mmaverick my steady systematic decline
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I get metric. Yay Canada!
mmaverick my steady systematic decline
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Interesting she gives me the same answer if I ask “how high am I?”

I was hoping that one would be on the ten scale.
Donkey Butter jerk face
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Pariah posted:
While I am complaining about iOS...How the fiddlesticks do you close every window in Safari? It just annoying the stick fiddling human waste out of me how Safari just keeps accumulating open windows till there are an absolutely crazy number all stacked up. Even more galling is that even quitting Safari does nothing, it returns to the state it was in before it was shut down.
Is there any way to make Safari work like a real browser that discards all open windows on shutdown? This mania that Apple has for making it nearly impossible to discard....anything really, is getting beyond old.


there is an option to have safari on you phone do close to what you want.

settings > safari > under the tabs submenu there is an option to have safari close tabs after one day.

not quite what you wanted but close.

I quite like that it doesn't just close my tabs and would find it extraordinarly annoying if all of the sudden my tabs where gone. I have a whole heap of them and I like it that way
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mmaverick posted:
Interesting she gives me the same answer if I ask “how high am I?”



Well, being in Canada, the answer could be: duuude... :stoned:
ukimalefu want, but shouldn't, may anyway
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I haven't seen anything about Siri, but Apple had server problems

https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/12/215 ... own-issues

Maybe everybody wanting Big Sur on day 1 affected Siri?

This problem seems to be affecting many people, without even installing big sur. The previous 2 versions of MacOS too, it seems. Macs are getting slowed down and it seems to be an internet problem related to Apple servers.
arkayn Aaarrrggghhhh
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Alexa works just fine though.
Lombo Opiofiend
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Good news Pariah ! When you see the time to set you can either enter a time manually of you can use the old scrolling behaviour. You just have to scroll on the desired hour or minute field. I am not sure but I think that it is new to the latest iOS update. Apple rules.
Another trick you might not know: when want to select text: long press the space (normally you move the cursor with this.) if you keep the scrollbar pressed and use additional fingers while still holding down on the spacebar you can select text.
Pariah Know Your Enemy
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I find the elimination of any entry feedback at all very disconcerting in the new Siri. After being used to seeing what siri was "hearing" not being shown anything feels like siri is simply not working. That combined with the awkward press and a half vague way of invoking siri and now the whole experience is just way the fiddlesticks too vague.
Pariah posted:
I find the elimination of any entry feedback at all very disconcerting in the new Siri. After being used to seeing what siri was "hearing" not being shown anything feels like siri is simply not working. That combined with the awkward press and a half vague way of invoking siri and now the whole experience is just way the fiddlesticks too vague.

What do you mean? The little circle pops up, and I have mine set to also show the input as text as it is recognized (I think it was an option in settings rather than default).
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macaddict4life posted:
Pariah posted:
I find the elimination of any entry feedback at all very disconcerting in the new Siri. After being used to seeing what siri was "hearing" not being shown anything feels like siri is simply not working. That combined with the awkward press and a half vague way of invoking siri and now the whole experience is just way the fiddlesticks too vague.

What do you mean? The little circle pops up, and I have mine set to also show the input as text as it is recognized (I think it was an option in settings rather than default).

Ah, found the setting. That is better.
I wish there was a setting so you could actually edit a picture in iOS instead of meerly creating an .aae file reminding my device to pretend like the picture had been edited.
Do you mean destructive edits rather than non-destructive with retention of the original? I'm not sure I see the difference, since any share or export will give you the edited version, but there are several apps that will do the job. What sort of edits do you want to make?
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Wow, Apple.