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maurvir Steamed meat popsicle
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ukimalefu want, but shouldn't, may anyway
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maurvir posted:


Apple is getting it. Or part of it.

Yeah, I read the article. Apple says they won't do something and then do it, all the time.

Their future depends on ARM. What are they gonna do? oops, rememebr last WWDC? nope, not ARM, hello... AMD?

Stay intel?

Still waiting for IBM to deliver 3Ghz PPC

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC_970
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Apple has a permanent architecture license. They don't use anything but the instruction set itself otherwise. Also, they would be in regulatory hell, given that buying ARM would put Apple in a critical position over every one of their competitors.

I don't know who will buy ARM, but it won't be Apple.
ukimalefu want, but shouldn't, may anyway
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ok, I think I get it now

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/07 ... comments=1

or partially get it. It's complicated...
Apple will not care if licensing stays the same. But...if Nvidia buys ARM; will they snub apple and revoke their license. That would be interesting.
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They won’t be able to do jack human waste to Apple. They have a permanent license. They don’t use arm chips they implement the arm instruction set in their custom design.
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Lombo posted:
They won’t be able to do jack human waste to Apple. They have a permanent license. They don’t use arm chips they implement the arm instruction set in their custom design.


This. Apple doesn't care because they bought the rights to the architecture. Anyone buying ARM who even attempted to revoke that license would find themselves in a legal hell that would make them curse the day they bought the company.
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Once you possess the rights to an instruction set, do you even need the original chip-maker?
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Metacell posted:
Once you possess the rights to an instruction set, do you even need the original chip-maker?


Not if you are content with what you have indefinitely. This is why AMD can still include x86 instructions in their CPUs and Intel can't do squat. (By the same token, Intel has a similar license with AMD for the x64 instruction set, so it works both ways)

The only thing Apple might miss out on is a newer version of the ISA, though in Apple's case, they may STILL not care, since they have the in-house expertise to work around those sorts of issues. Think the later versions of the SSE extensions that Intel came out with, and that AMD had to separately license.
ukimalefu want, but shouldn't, may anyway
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doesn't apple make business with competitors anyway?

like, samsung makes stuff for apple, and google benefits from iphone users, things like that?

who wouldn't want some of that apple's big pile of cash?
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ARM was originally a joint venture, with Apple being one of the original owners.
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