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store still up.... still selling the old human waste.

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Robert B. wrote:
Betonhaus wrote:
Robert B. wrote:
ukimalefu wrote:
maurvir wrote:
ukimalefu wrote: I think it's a mistake to call watch widgets "complications"


https://www.wixonjewelers.com/education ... lications/


So apple didn't invent the term. I still don't like it.

Who wants things to be complicated?


Watch designers. A complication is a functional puzzle to solve.

nobody outside of watch enthusiasts is going to know that. Tell your grandma that her watch now has complications and she's not going to be super enthusiastic about that.


Oh blatherskite.


well, sorry, we know your grandma is that cool, but most are not
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Regular people will just call them watch apps.
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Pariah wrote: Regular people will just wear regular watches .


fixed

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Apple has one job!

As someone who may have Apple shares in a mutual fund, I have every confidence in the company's ability to deliver shiny rectangles to a grateful populace.
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gd wrote:
ukimalefu wrote: mac pro starts at: $5999


ukimalefu wrote: pro display starts at $4999



Jesus Christ, $11,000 just to have a base Mac Pro. It better be amazing even with base specs.


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6 months and go refurb for a 10% savings

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It has a headphone jack.
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and store is updated

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macnuke wrote: 6 months and go refurb for a 10% savings

obligatory wait for the .1 update
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Ribtor wrote: Apple has one job!

As someone who may have Apple shares in a mutual fund, I have every confidence in the company's ability to deliver shiny rectangles to a grateful populace.



That may be the next thing I buy from Apple, shares. That may take a while.
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Looks like Apple has created a "9600" for this new century. Good for them, finally. This answers the long standing complaints about upgradability with a vengeance.
It's about time.
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Pariah wrote: Looks like Apple has created a "9600" for this new century. Good for them, finally. This answers the long standing complaints about upgradability with a vengeance.
It's about time.


still won't able to buy an "Off" video card for it. so while upgradable.. they did what they could with ...

A.. propriotary video cards.

B.. A2 security. my money says it won't take a PCIe video card upgrade.

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macnuke wrote:
Pariah wrote: Looks like Apple has created a "9600" for this new century. Good for them, finally. This answers the long standing complaints about upgradability with a vengeance.
It's about time.


still won't able to buy an "Off" video card for it. so while upgradable.. they did what they could with ...

A.. propriotary video cards.

B.. A2 security. my money says it won't take a PCIe video card upgrade.

welcome back to the fenced in playground.

Well, if any of that turns out to be true that would be the maggot in the honey I mentioned earlier. Typically Apple finds a way to fiddlesticks up something that could have been good, but for an exasperating detail or two.
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I think they stick fiddled it up.

I'll know more once one gets out in the wild... until then... i will just hold off and either buy one of it's truly upgradable or say fiddlesticks it and build one... and run this 2009 3.33mHz quad Mac Pro running Mojave run until it is totally dead. the one I build will be windows.

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Looks OK. I was turned off by the holes until I saw the detail.

$6 grand??? Eh, maybe they'll drop the trashcan prices more than a c note.

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ukimalefu wrote:
gd wrote:
ukimalefu wrote: mac pro starts at: $5999


ukimalefu wrote: pro display starts at $4999



Jesus Christ, $11,000 just to have a base Mac Pro. It better be amazing even with base specs.


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but if you can afford it, what the hell, go crazy

We didn't buy Apple-branded monitors back in the '90s and I, for one, don't intend to start now.
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Not for a grand - sheesh.

It would have to pleasure far more than my eyes at that price.
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Honestly? I'm never going to be the target audience for this. My system is rocking a Ryzen 1500X, a R9 290 that I've never had a justification to replace, and 3 1080p monitors that only tax the system when I try watching three HD porn videos at once with hardware decoding. I'm the last person to say if this thing is good or not.
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Did anyone else notice that the guts seem to be mirrored compared to a traditional PC?

https://www.apple.com/mac-pro/design/
no 2.5 or 3.5" drive bays, only two m.2 slots

Comes with a USB-C to lightning cable. Because your phone doesn't have one.
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just wait they'll all look like eventually
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I guess I have not been paying attention to the Xeon line-up. I was surprised to see how low the clock was on the higher core count chips.
Even weirder is that while the steady state clock is lower the "turbo Boost" (God that sounds stupid) is higher.
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Pariah wrote: I guess I have not been paying attention to the Xeon line-up. I was surprised to see how low the clock was on the higher core count chips.
Even weirder is that while the steady state clock is lower the "turbo Boost" (God that sounds stupid) is higher.


For the workstation chips, it's sort of a dual-purpose chip - it's intended to run faster if you just give it a simple task that only loads a couple cores (single-threaded stuff), but then dial itself back down in terms of speed so that if you load ALL of the cores, it doesn't catch fire.

The 4/6/8 core chips do the same thing (higher single-core boost speeds), just less extreme.
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gd wrote:
Ribtor wrote: Apple has one job!

As someone who may have Apple shares in a mutual fund, I have every confidence in the company's ability to deliver shiny rectangles to a grateful populace.



That may be the next thing I buy from Apple, shares. That may take a while.


should have done that 20 years ago...

oh, you weren't around, sorry
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The new Mac pro is MONSTER of a computer that is not for everybody. You don't do hollywood blockbusters.

And the pro monitor is 32" 6K HDR, sorry XDR. Not HD, not full HD, not 4k ultra HD. Again, insane.

-Graphics Configure two MPX Modules with up to four GPUs

AMD Radeon Pro 580X

AMD Radeon Pro Vega II

AMD Radeon Pro Vega II Duo

-Expansion Slots Eight PCI Express expansion slots

Two MPX Modules or up to four PCI Express card slots

Three full-length PCI Express gen 3 slots
One x16 slot; two x8 slots
75W auxiliary power available

One half-length x4 PCI Express gen 3 slot with Apple I/O card installed

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https://www.apple.com/mac-pro/specs/
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INSANE

https://www.apple.com/mac-pro/

I don't care if you have the money

That thing is for making Marvel, or Star Wars, or Pixar movies. NOT for home users.
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This will be the first time ever I say: yeah, put that thing under the desk, or in a closet, where nobody can see it.

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It looks like a radiator.
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they are still about the cool with no fan noise, which I like
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OK.. i'm not going to bother posting what I see... but I will say if you turn the Pro upside down...does it look like it's covered in Mercedes Benz symbols yes?

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I like the styling, it is tough and industrial looking. Very fitting for a serious workstation class computer.
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Betonhaus wrote: Comes with a USB-C to lightning cable. Because your phone doesn't have one.


It's to charge the mouse and keyboard
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Sucz. no rgb
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better sense of scale, and it looks even uglier in a "real world" picture.

But I'm sure there will be a chinese copy, probably before the end of the moth.
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the feet will make sliding it in and out of semi enclosed spaces even easier than the version 1 cheese handles did.

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Ribtor wrote: Apple has one job!

As someone who may have Apple shares in a mutual fund, I have every confidence in the company's ability to deliver shiny rectangles to a grateful populace.
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First hackintosh done already!

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close look on video, most main details about the mac pro and new monitor, under 4 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1-e2Ro ... l=TheVerge
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