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Oh shake that globe up and give Santa some snow!!!!
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TOS posted wrote: so the usa will pass 300,000 dead within a couple of days

today was the first 3,000-dead day so far

remember when we were talking about a 9/11 each week? now it's each day

the lack of care from the current administration means that the #1 thing on US news for Covid 19 goes along the lines of 'shopping is down this quarter'. It seems the only qualifier for a Covid 19 story is that it must involve shopping, stores or the economy, if it doesn't mention one of those in the story than it won't run on the news. This is no joke, 100% serious that this is how the local news is here.
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maurvir posted wrote: As with signs, I can't help but imagine this has been a problem at her hospital...


My understanding is that it's a problem in most hospitals, but they really don't have the time or energy to deal with it right now.
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so my region is heading back into lockdown

the provincial government refuses to take steps when the numbers are low, only stepping in when it's out of control

and as per their usual approach was made on friday, and won't take effect till monday so we can all host a giant weekend superspreader event
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/11/white-h ... eport.html

White House chief of staff Mark Meadows told the head of the Food and Drug Administration to submit his resignation if the agency doesn’t clear Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine for emergency use by day’s end, The Washington Post reported Friday.

The warning led FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn and the agency to accelerate its timetable for clearing America’s first Covid-19 vaccine from Saturday morning to later Friday, according to the Post, which cited anonymous sources.


Well, this will certainly build confidence in the public... :goth:
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TOS posted wrote: so my region is heading back into lockdown

the provincial government refuses to take steps when the numbers are low, only stepping in when it's out of control

and as per their usual approach was made on friday, and won't take effect till monday so we can all host a giant weekend superspreader event

When are you tapping the first keg? More importantly, where the hell is my invite?
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maurvir posted wrote: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/11/white-h ... eport.html

White House chief of staff Mark Meadows told the head of the Food and Drug Administration to submit his resignation if the agency doesn’t clear Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine for emergency use by day’s end, The Washington Post reported Friday.

The warning led FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn and the agency to accelerate its timetable for clearing America’s first Covid-19 vaccine from Saturday morning to later Friday, according to the Post, which cited anonymous sources.


Well, this will certainly build confidence in the public... :goth:
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obvs posted wrote:
maurvir posted wrote: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/11/white-h ... eport.html

White House chief of staff Mark Meadows told the head of the Food and Drug Administration to submit his resignation if the agency doesn’t clear Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine for emergency use by day’s end, The Washington Post reported Friday.

The warning led FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn and the agency to accelerate its timetable for clearing America’s first Covid-19 vaccine from Saturday morning to later Friday, according to the Post, which cited anonymous sources.


Well, this will certainly build confidence in the public... :goth:
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Trumpy McTrumpface wants to make sure he gets the credit for the vaccine now that he has been definitely (for the umpteenth time) fired.
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So, i'm trying to figure out the rule of thumb here. If you've seen someone in the last 14 days and they test positive, but youre almost 15 days when they test AND since you'd seen them but before they got sick they went out with a group of people, what's the protocol? Oh, and being symptom free since you saw them.

Here's the thing. I saw someone on Thanksgiving. 2 family members. A few days ago, one of them got sick but was with a group 3 days after Thanksgiving and none were wearing masks. It would be a reach to say i have something to be concerned about, right? I'm at 15 days since seeing them and not sick.
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You should be in the clear, especially if you have no symptoms, but if you are concerned, it might be worth getting tested.
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maurvir posted wrote: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/11/white-h ... eport.html

White House chief of staff Mark Meadows told the head of the Food and Drug Administration to submit his resignation if the agency doesn’t clear Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine for emergency use by day’s end, The Washington Post reported Friday.

The warning led FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn and the agency to accelerate its timetable for clearing America’s first Covid-19 vaccine from Saturday morning to later Friday, according to the Post, which cited anonymous sources.


Well, this will certainly build confidence in the public... :goth:

I wouldn't get the Pfizer vaccine, it was rushed out the door. If you want a Covid vaccine I'd wait for the Moderna one due out a few weeks later than the Pfizer one.

Moderna one doesn't require to be in cold storage and the delivery platform wasn't rushed out, was already in clinical tests prior to Coivd breakout. It's actually quite fascinating the tech involved with their vaccine, the drugs backbone was designed from the ground up to be easily payload modified for customized one on one cancer treatments. In this case instead of having a patients unique cancer targeted payload they swapped it for general Coivd one.

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TOS posted wrote: is this your burg, warin?

https://globalnews.ca/news/7518882/coro ... um=Twitter

Nah. I am in Kamloops, this is Kelowna. But make no mistake, we have our own anti masker morons as well.

I’ve heard of a ship of fools, but this is much more a pack of morons.
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Warin posted wrote:
TOS posted wrote: is this your burg, warin?

https://globalnews.ca/news/7518882/coro ... um=Twitter

Nah. I am in Kamloops, this is Kelowna. But make no mistake, we have our own anti masker morons as well.

I’ve heard of a ship of fools, but this is much more a pack of morons.


it's amazing how clueless people can be ... my neighbourhood is going into lockdown as of midnight tonight, but a local nitwit posted on the local facebook requesting advice on a caterer for a medium-sized get-together

though in fairness the whole group was like "uh what the fiddlesticks are you talking about"
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Who should get the vaccine first:

Healthcare workers
Long-term care residents and staff
Anyone 65 years or older
Patients with a chronic medical condition
Essential workers

BUT

However, there are warnings about certain groups: People with severe allergies, immunocompromised and pregnant people.

If you belong to one of these groups, that doesn’t mean you’re ineligible for the vaccine. It just means you should talk to your doctor before getting it because there’s not enough testing on these groups of people.

https://www.wymt.com/2020/12/16/doctors ... 9-vaccine/
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why we'll be wearing masks for a while

https://vitals.lifehacker.com/why-well- ... 1845905612
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So... do you guys want these vaccines?

https://reason.com/2020/12/17/pfizer-sa ... e-coolers/

*edit*

I haven't heard anything about vaccines around here, american, russian, or otherwise. I guess it'll take a while, but if you don't want those...

(And, I'm not happy with this mask, but I'm too lazy to do anything about it)

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Pfizer CEO dumps stock on upward spike of first day announcement.
Pfizer CEO said he will not take the vaccine anytime soon.

WTF does he know that isn’t being shared?
And yes, Pfizer has such the Sterling rep with new drugs yes? :(
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Pfizer CEO said that. We don't know if it's true. If it is, we don't know why not. I believe he said, "I will not cut in line", "I'll wait for my turn", or something like that.. Yeah, right.

He probably wants to make himself and the company look good, manipulate the market some more, for more profit.
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I'm sure he knows quite a lot.

I've read enough to say that if I'm presented the options of getting the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine, I'd pick Moderna.
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Robert B. posted wrote: I'm sure he knows quite a lot.

I've read enough to say that if I'm presented the options of getting the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine, I'd pick Moderna.

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I thought it was due to be out a couple weeks after Pfizer, any way this is the one I would get (if I didn't already have Covid antibodies)
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I’ve been lucky so far to not get infected. I’d also opt for Moderma’s version too. Dolly Parton backing helps to sway me, I know that’s not science-based - but so what?

Anyway here’s tweets about Dr. Fauci and a chance encounter at youth baseball.


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The positive tests at work just keep going up.
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Can you work from home?
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yet another new strain identified

very little information yet but it also appears to be more transmissible than the vanilla version
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Aaron_R posted wrote: Can you work from home?

No, and everyone that can work from home has been doing so since March. I'm lucky. When i'm there, there are minimal people, and the building with the most cases for some reason doesn't get sanitized like mine, not that it helps. People i know at work like their large gatherings and like to ignore protocols like not sharing food. In one of the cases a woman was symptomatic and stayed home waiting results while her live in bf that worked another shift ignored protocols and continued to work. The company wasn't notified til the test came back POS, but by then, the BF had already infected 4 other people which was found out later. Had he self quarantined like he was supposed to, the others wouldn't have gotten sick.
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TOS posted wrote: yet another new strain identified

very little information yet but it also appears to be more transmissible than the vanilla version


That makes sense to me. A new strain that's less transmissable would be unlikely to spread given all the preventative measures we're taking. No one has the flu this year!
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People around here seem to be doing it right. It has been a couple of months since I saw someone in a store without a Mask and the governor has declared a statewide mandatory mask rule.
It is nice to be in a state where the democrats are 100% in control. Decisions have been made following scientific and expert advice. The dems control the Govenors office and both houses of the [s]state[s/] Commonwealth legislature so all the republicans could do was wave their arms and make angry noises but they were completely ignored. Reason is in control.
As a result, Virginia is doing much better than many parts of the country.

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us vaccine rollout is already a disaster

How badly are we doing? In September, President Trump promised 100 million vaccinations by the end of the year. As a country, we have only 40 million doses, and had aimed, according to Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar, to vaccinate 20 million by year-end. That’s bad enough. But we have administered only 2 million of those — barely 10 percent of the goal. At this rate, achieving sufficient vaccination to reach herd immunity and bring the pandemic to a close in the U.S. will take about seven years. In Israel, they are vaccinating about one percent of the population each day, meaning the full program of population-wide vaccination will be done by this March
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Wow.

Just wow.
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Pariah posted wrote: People around here seem to be doing it right. It has been a couple of months since I saw someone in a store without a Mask and the governor has declared a statewide mandatory mask rule.
It is nice to be in a state where the democrats are 100% in control. Decisions have been made following scientific and expert advice. The dems control the Govenors office and both houses of the [s]state[s/] Commonwealth legislature so all the republicans could do was wave their arms and make angry noises but they were completely ignored. Reason is in control.
As a result, Virginia is doing much better than many parts of the country.


Yup, Hawaii has been blue since it became the 50th state, according to the CDC website we're doing the best of all the states. the CDC trend line says HI has been flat since September, while all the red states have been going up. Don't know where Trump and his supporters are getting the idea that blue states are being hardest hit, maybe they only get their info from Fox News rather than the CDC :der: :roll: :squint:
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TOS posted wrote: us vaccine rollout is already a disaster

How badly are we doing? In September, President Trump promised 100 million vaccinations by the end of the year. As a country, we have only 40 million doses, and had aimed, according to Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar, to vaccinate 20 million by year-end. That’s bad enough. But we have administered only 2 million of those — barely 10 percent of the goal. At this rate, achieving sufficient vaccination to reach herd immunity and bring the pandemic to a close in the U.S. will take about seven years. In Israel, they are vaccinating about one percent of the population each day, meaning the full program of population-wide vaccination will be done by this March


Geez, that's frickin' wonderful, at this rate the next Super Bowl will be during Biden's 2nd term :roll:
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OK, everyone who is actually surprised that the Trump administration stick fiddled up something vital to national security, raise your hand. :goth:
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I would, but that would move it too close to my face.
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maurvir posted wrote: OK, everyone who is actually surprised that the Trump administration stick fiddled up something vital to national security, raise your hand. :goth:

Your sentence lacked the word "again" in it.
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a growing national scandal in canada, as it emerges that many politicians (almost all of them conservatives) have urged citizens to stay home while they themselves skipped off on international travel

ontario’s finance minister had to resign after weeks in the caribbean, concealed behind post-dated christmasy social media posts

even conservative pundits are wasted off ... the rage is palpable

goddam hypocritical scumbags
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