radarman posted:

What a cougar looks like in the US.



What a cougar looks like in the UK...

I think the one on the bottom has sharper claws, and can inflict longer-lasting damage.

You've probably seen the black and white version


Many more shown here, reprints from color slides
http://extras.denverpost.com/archive/captured.asp

Apple trumpets a 60-hour workweek like it's some kind of a good thing.

matt posted:

Apple trumpets a 60-hour workweek like it's some kind of a good thing.

That being the maximum probably is. I could imagine many of the chinese companies trying to push 80 hour workweeks otherwise.

I understand that, but I don't think that 60-hour workweeks is something to be proud of.

It's kind of like if you have fresh gruel and you have week-old gruel, and you're trumpeting the fact that you're feeding the prisoner the fresh gruel.

chikie posted:

matt posted:

Apple trumpets a 60-hour workweek like it's some kind of a good thing.

That being the maximum probably is. I could imagine many of the chinese companies trying to push 80 hour workweeks otherwise.

I've not visited a company where the management did not work roughly 60 hours a week. Some do 80. I personally draw the line at around 45..

If you're paying someone millions of dollars a year, you're justified in requiring 60-hour workweeks.

Paying someone sweatshop wages and demanding that they work 60 hours is not the same thing.

Note, for the price, you could hire a hooker to blow smoke in your face for less than the price of this hookah...

matt posted:

If you're paying someone millions of dollars a year, you're justified in requiring 60-hour workweeks.
Paying someone sweatshop wages and demanding that they work 60 hours is not the same thing.

The management I know are middle to low level and nowhere near the million dollar a year category. I also hope those being paid those sorts of wages work at least 60 hour weeks.


Hah, awesome radarman.

There's a certain point above which it's justifiable to require 60-hour workweeks.

I really doubt that workplaces known for their company suicides meet that.

Think I'll buy me a footbaaaaallll team


http://ktla.com/2013/08/16/rock-band-ki ... z2uZVAFKSp


this may be old news in LA, but it's the first I've heard of it

matt posted:

Apple trumpets a 60-hour workweek like it's some kind of a good thing.

It's not bad. In the marine world, the legal international limit is 72 hours in any 7 day period. A lot of people in the third world work way more than 60 hours a week. It's only within the last 100 years that the 8 hour day has become standard in western nations.

When I'm at sea I'm working 84 hours+ a week.

matt posted:

I understand that, but I don't think that 60-hour workweeks is something to be proud of.

It's kind of like if you have fresh gruel and you have week-old gruel, and you're trumpeting the fact that you're feeding the prisoner the fresh gruel.

Umm...

jkahless posted:

matt posted:

Apple trumpets a 60-hour workweek like it's some kind of a good thing.

It's not bad. In the marine world, the legal international limit is 72 hours in any 7 day period. A lot of people in the third world work way more than 60 hours a week. It's only within the last 100 years that the 8 hour day has become standard in western nations.

When I'm at sea I'm working 84 hours+ a week.

Yeah, working 60+ hours a week is... well...

As my housemate is fond of saying, "Welcome to Corporate."

Of course, there's also a huge difference between operating a cubicle 55-60 hours a week vs. working on a ship at sea. Or breathing lead fumes in a 110dB iPhone factory, for that matter.

There's more to a job that the number of hours you work.

jkahless posted:

matt posted:

Apple trumpets a 60-hour workweek like it's some kind of a good thing.

It's not bad. In the marine world, the legal international limit is 72 hours in any 7 day period. A lot of people in the third world work way more than 60 hours a week. It's only within the last 100 years that the 8 hour day has become standard in western nations.

When I'm at sea I'm working 84 hours+ a week.

Well, duh, yeah!

We all know if you stop bailing, the ship sinks!

Farmerkev posted:

You've probably seen the black and white version


Many more shown here, reprints from color slides
http://extras.denverpost.com/archive/captured.asp

Amazing how the color makes it feel so much closer. Still plenty of roadsides that look basically the same.

dv posted:

Yeah, working 60+ hours a week is... well...

Yep. It sucks. I'm just glad that things are improving in places like Foxconn. It's still terrible, but I'll take gradual improvement over principled but impractical all or nothingness any day of the week,

matt posted:

chikie posted:

He's a hip hop lenny kravitz (half black, half jewish)

But he raps like he's all Jewish.

Terrible. Erryday.

That is just terrible.

It would be nice to bring this business back to the US

Resident Evil park (In case you didn't know, RE is called Biohazard in Japan)

fun for the whole family!

Albie should have know better than to pass out at a Hindu Rave.

ha ha he didn't get it so he's not a genius

Nerds at walmart?