Local driver crashes into SecState office.

Who's Jesse White?

dv posted:

Who's Jesse White?

IL Sec of State
That's our dmv where you take drivers tests and get license stickers, title transfer etc

ukimalefu posted:

Kirk posted:

Art requires some cleverness to get a point or points across. That's just random damage from shipping.

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jec

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That's like saying Jackson Pollack isn't art because it's just random dripping. Sorry if you don't think it's art, but that doesn't make it not art.

Jackson Pollack used dripping to paint a picture. He applied the drips in a pattern to evoke images or emotion as intended. That 'control' of the medium makes it art.

Farmerkev posted:

dv posted:

Who's Jesse White?

IL Sec of State
That's our dmv where you take drivers tests and get license stickers, title transfer etc

That's silly - you have to change the sign every election.

I figured it was like the "Jesse White Memorial DMV" or something, but they ran out of room for letters.

dv posted:

Farmerkev posted:

dv posted:

Who's Jesse White?

IL Sec of State
That's our dmv where you take drivers tests and get license stickers, title transfer etc

That's silly - you have to change the sign every election.

I figured it was like the "Jesse White Memorial DMV" or something, but they ran out of room for letters.

Welcome to Illinois.

The state which originally defined the term 'gangster'

Pithecanthropus posted:

ukimalefu posted:

Kirk posted:

Art requires some cleverness to get a point or points across. That's just random damage from shipping.

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jec

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That's like saying Jackson Pollack isn't art because it's just random dripping. Sorry if you don't think it's art, but that doesn't make it not art.

sorry, if it doesn't employ cleverness to get a point across it's just not art

Remembering the late William Peter Blatty with this.

TOS posted:

Pithecanthropus posted:

ukimalefu posted:

Kirk posted:

Art requires some cleverness to get a point or points across. That's just random damage from shipping.

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jec

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That's like saying Jackson Pollack isn't art because it's just random dripping. Sorry if you don't think it's art, but that doesn't make it not art.

sorry, if it doesn't employ cleverness to get a point across it's just not art

I disagree art can, but does not have to get any point across or mean anything. It also doesn't need to be "pretty" or be hard to make, or be liked by anybody.

But that's just my opinion, because the only thing art absolutely is, is stick fiddling subjective.

'Subjective' is not a catch all term that anything can hide inside.

TOS posted:

Pithecanthropus posted:

ukimalefu posted:

Kirk posted:

Art requires some cleverness to get a point or points across. That's just random damage from shipping.

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jec

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That's like saying Jackson Pollack isn't art because it's just random dripping. Sorry if you don't think it's art, but that doesn't make it not art.

sorry, if it doesn't employ cleverness to get a point across it's just not art

Your vision is too narrow.

What artistic tradition is the art coming from? I don't know much about the visual arts, but, Like, if you're a literary modernist, you're going out of your to use symbolism and stuff to try to convey your intended meaning. If you're a post-modernist, you write your story however you want and let the reader do with it what they will. Lots of art (not all of it) just needs some context to enable people to make sense of it.

Pithecanthropus posted:

TOS posted:

Pithecanthropus posted:

ukimalefu posted:

Kirk posted:

Art requires some cleverness to get a point or points across. That's just random damage from shipping.

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jec

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That's like saying Jackson Pollack isn't art because it's just random dripping. Sorry if you don't think it's art, but that doesn't make it not art.

sorry, if it doesn't employ cleverness to get a point across it's just not art

Your vision is too narrow.

apologies ... i was being utterly sarcastic, that definition is unbelievably wrong

as an artist i can only shake my head in pity for anyone who thinks that way

Kirk posted:

Jackson Pollack used dripping to paint a picture. He applied the drips in a pattern to evoke images or emotion as intended. That 'control' of the medium makes it art.

Flicking a brush around to make vomit-like projectile stains is not 'control' anymore than letting FedEx break your glass. They both are allowing randomness into the design.

dv posted:

Farmerkev posted:

dv posted:

Who's Jesse White?

IL Sec of State
That's our dmv where you take drivers tests and get license stickers, title transfer etc

That's silly - you have to change the sign every election.

I figured it was like the "Jesse White Memorial DMV" or something, but they ran out of room for letters.

He's been Sec of State since 1998.

TOS posted:

Pithecanthropus posted:

TOS posted:

Pithecanthropus posted:

ukimalefu posted:

Kirk posted:

Art requires some cleverness to get a point or points across. That's just random damage from shipping.

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jec

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That's like saying Jackson Pollack isn't art because it's just random dripping. Sorry if you don't think it's art, but that doesn't make it not art.

sorry, if it doesn't employ cleverness to get a point across it's just not art

Your vision is too narrow.

apologies ... i was being utterly sarcastic, that definition is unbelievably wrong

as an artist i can only shake my head in pity for anyone who thinks that way

This discussion reminds of the federal judge's definition of porn. "...I know it when I see it."

now that's some stabbin' ice right there

freaky deaky pentagon "drone swarm" exercise

it's a whole ton of drones that use distributed computing, sharing processing; they can easily adapt to losing or gaining individual drones and can decide on the best way to carry out their mission

TOS posted:

freaky deaky pentagon "drone swarm" exercise

it's a whole ton of drones that use distributed computing, sharing processing; they can easily adapt to losing or gaining individual drones and can decide on the best way to carry out their mission

Quick, somebody make a random chick's house fly and crank up the Beastie Boys.

TOS posted:

Pithecanthropus posted:

TOS posted:

Pithecanthropus posted:

ukimalefu posted:

Kirk posted:

Art requires some cleverness to get a point or points across. That's just random damage from shipping.

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jec

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That's like saying Jackson Pollack isn't art because it's just random dripping. Sorry if you don't think it's art, but that doesn't make it not art.

sorry, if it doesn't employ cleverness to get a point across it's just not art

Your vision is too narrow.

apologies ... i was being utterly sarcastic, that definition is unbelievably wrong

as an artist i can only shake my head in pity for anyone who thinks that way

You're an artist?

Long ago, I made this in, what I like to think as, a Pollock kind of way. I threw things at it until... it "spoke to me", know what I mean? Some of the things I threw at it are deliberate, some are random.

Sometimes I do that for a while, but I don't always get a result I like. And I rarely show those things to anybody.

Don't call me an artist. I wouldn't dare calling myself that. The most I'd say is, look at this thing I made.

I call this art

this is art too

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ok, one comment, wtf

more art

ukimalefu posted:

Long ago, I made this in, what I like to think as, a Pollock kind of way. I threw things at it until... it "spoke to me", know what I mean? Some of the things I threw at it are deliberate, some are random.

Sometimes I do that for a while, but I don't always get a result I like. And I rarely show those things to anybody.

Don't call me an artist. I wouldn't dare calling myself that. The most I'd say is, look at this thing I made.

That's about 1000x more interesting than any Jackson Pollock. But so is TV snow (which is hard to find nowadays...it's the signal from the background radiation of the Big Bang...and it does have patterns in it).

Bowie Pixel art



Strong with the Force pixel art



Happy little trees pixel art

video game art

More video game art

wood (and I guess some paint) art

Metacell posted:

Kirk posted:

Jackson Pollack used dripping to paint a picture. He applied the drips in a pattern to evoke images or emotion as intended. That 'control' of the medium makes it art.

Flicking a brush around to make vomit-like projectile stains is not 'control' anymore than letting FedEx break your glass. They both are allowing randomness into the design.

...allowing randomness...

There you go. It is an artifice, we can shorten to "art".

Broccoli art

anime art

I was gonna post Leda and the Swan, but I chickened out ...

okay, uki, jebus

TOS posted:

okay, uki, jebus

ukimalefu posted:

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ok, one comment, wtf

needs a spear