DukeofNuke posted:I just want to say that I was very satisfied with the ending.
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I cheered when Drogon melted the Iron Throne.
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Quote:But then, I had a question ...Quote:Where did the Dothraki go?
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ukimalefu posted:I don't think the dragon intentionally wanted to destroy the throne, it was just upset, and for a moment it seemed like it did want to kill jon snow, but contained itself and just spat the fire to the side, and the throne happened to be there
But I could be wrong.
DukeofNuke posted:Quote:I could go on.
Oh Please, don't hold back!
ukimalefu posted:The whole series was full of unexpected things, but people are complaining now?
whaaaaawhat I wanted to happen didn't happen!
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ukimalefu posted:Books can explain things in detail, tv shows can't.
Quote:My guess was, (I don't know why I'm spoiler tagging this, but I'll do it anyway) Arya killed The Night King and people know that. She's also The new King's sister. And/or, she killed the first guy that said no, and then found all the help she wanted.
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DEyncourt posted:ukimalefu posted:Books can explain things in detail, tv shows can't.
Sure, but a superior writer can add at least some details to the script while inferior writers can fail to understand that superior writer's nuances.Quote:My guess was, (I don't know why I'm spoiler tagging this, but I'll do it anyway) Arya killed The Night King and people know that. She's also The new King's sister. And/or, she killed the first guy that said no, and then found all the help she wanted.
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You don't think that Arya killing that first guy would merely create a WIDE bubble around her the next time she got to any place that sailors gathered: "There she is! RUN!!!"
Your other points aren't very likely to motivate anyone to join her crew. Y'know, something about being able to live rather than joining my theoretical Edmure the Lost.
DukeofNuke posted:D&D had to wing it after the show passed up the books in, what was it, season 5?
Then HBO said, "This can't go on forever. You need to wrap this up, and we're only going to pay for two more seasons."
Quote:One question that was never resolved was, "Is Tyrion a Lannister?"
All the clues were there. He was described as a monster when he was born, with scales and a tail (just like Dani's baby), and the dragons didn't eat him when he visited them, unaccompanied by Daeneris, (which also hints at their intelligence and a psy link with Targarens). I don't recall the story about how Aerys raped Joanna Lannister being mentioned in the show, but it is believed that he, not Tywin, is the father of Tyrion.
But those lose ends never did get tied up.
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DEyncourt posted:(wait: how can anyone create a MUCH-larger-than-dragon-sized chamber within a pyramid? A very unwise feature considering the tremendous weight of the pyramid above those chambers. I guess GRR Martin isn't any sort of structural engineer)
DukeofNuke posted:Columbus got sailors. Magellan got sailors. Arya Stark got sailors.
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ukimalefu posted:how can anyone create a MUCH-larger-than-dragon-sized chamber within a pyramid?
It-is-fantasy.
If you can accept dragons, then stop worrying about engineering and physics.
DEyncourt posted:Columbus himself had made a significant lowball estimate of the distance between Europe and China. Had the Americas and their surrounding islands hadn't been where they are almost completely blocking his way to China, Columbus might have sailed on westward for a couple more months before running out of his supplies, thus joining that list of unknowns who never returned.
jkahless posted:DEyncourt posted:(wait: how can anyone create a MUCH-larger-than-dragon-sized chamber within a pyramid? A very unwise feature considering the tremendous weight of the pyramid above those chambers. I guess GRR Martin isn't any sort of structural engineer)
If you want to do it there are multiple ways.
DEyncourt posted:jkahless posted:DEyncourt posted:(wait: how can anyone create a MUCH-larger-than-dragon-sized chamber within a pyramid? A very unwise feature considering the tremendous weight of the pyramid above those chambers. I guess GRR Martin isn't any sort of structural engineer)
If you want to do it there are multiple ways.
Sure, with Ancient Greece-level mechanics such as archways and medieval-level mechanics such as flying buttresses one can build considerably more airy and lightweight structures.
But people do not build pyramids when the above were known, if only because the sheer cost of the stonework required to make any pyramid.
Sure, the Ancient Egyptian pyramids were built to be tombs for their pharoahs and so they were built with relatively tiny openings to serve as their eventual (not-so-)resting places (that parenthetical added because apparently most if not all of the pyramids were looted before even most people who worked on a given pyramid were dead) and narrow passageways into those places.
But that Mereen pyramid? If I recall this correctly those big chambers in which the dragons were kept for their punishment were at or even BELOW ground level (perhaps an argument could be made that originally they were AT ground level but over the intervening time since construction the debris of mankind raised the outside levels such that those chambers were now many feet below that outside level). Those chambers featured many columns to support the upper levels of the pyramid, so these columns were topped by what? A vaulted ceiling such as can be found in medieval cathedrals? Sorry, but such vaulting is basically a three-dimensional extension of archways and often required the use of flying buttresses to counteract the outward pressure caused by that vaulting. Can you name any structure which features vaulted ceilings where that ceiling was required to carry the millions of tons of cut stone contained in the rest of the pyramid above?
Beyond the architectural problems the question must be asked: why build such huge and apparently empty chambers? In anticipation of a ruler who needed to keep her dragons in town? Maybe they just stored grain in there or huge weapons like Euron Greyjoy's ballistas? Or was this simply a mistake of convenience made by the usually meticulous GRR Martin?