google stadia: thoughts?

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google stadia: thoughts?

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some info

game via streaming, like netflix

comes out in november, promises 60fps at 4k (depending on your connection)

the "founders edition" costs $169 up front, then $12 per month (there's a free version too) ... i guess it's like a combination of netflix and steam?

it comes with chromecast and a controller

i'm not sure how complete their games list is, but it doesn't knock my socks off, though i do like the idea of playing across multiple devices ... well, multiple google devices

anyway, what do you guys think of this?
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I think it will be great, right up to the point where Google gets tired of it and axes it because it didn't kill Sony and Microsoft outright.

Oh, and it will eat your bandwidth for lunch, so you had better be on an unlimited connection.
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i dunno, their specs indicate you only need 10-20 mbps to get hi-def gaming, and that's pretty undemanding
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TOS wrote: i dunno, their specs indicate you only need 10-20 mbps to get hi-def gaming, and that's pretty undemanding


https://www.polygon.com/2019/6/6/186552 ... -bandwidth

Also, keep in mind that you will be streaming that much the entire time you are connected. It won't take much play time before you blow through a data cap - at least in the US. Fortunately, I suspect Google will get tired of the project before it gets too out of hand.
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maurvir wrote:I suspect Google will get tired of the project before it gets too out of hand.


well, i mean that's assumed
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Dammit I already came up with this idea and they just stole it.
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Back then, people were bright enough to say hell no.
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https://arstechnica.com/information-tec ... should-be/

The ISPs have a strong history of staying ahead of consumer trends and if you look at the history of data caps in those small number of markets—and it's actually a relatively small number of markets that have [data caps]—the trend over time, when music streaming and download became popular, especially in the early days when it was not necessarily legitimate, data caps moved up. Then with the evolution of TV and film streaming, data caps moved up, and we expect that will continue to be the case.


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that can happen

what also can happen is "not enough" and "higher prices"
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You'd be a fool to buy into this product. At the rate software and hardware is terminated at Google, good luck with your investment.
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I understand you won't need the hardware, only the software.

It should work on your phone or laptop, with a gaming controller you already have.
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Google says Stadia games will remain playable even if publishers stop supporting the platform

“Once you purchase the game, you own the right to play it. In the future, it is possible that some games may no longer be available for new purchases, but existing players will still be able to play the game,” the Stadia FAQ page reads. “Outside of unforeseen circumstances, Stadia will aim to keep any previously purchased title available for gameplay.”
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maurvir wrote: Back then, people were bright enough to say hell no.

We're they? We're they, though? Because I think they may have said "Hell YES!!" instead.
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I remember seeing that concept in the 80s and totally thinking hell yeah. Of course, I spent a HUGE amount of money in 1990 and 91 dialling long distance into a BBS in Vancouver run by a computer store called Doppler. Like, hundreds of dollars in long distance fees.
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google stadia unboxing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNa8y_GyPXU

gameplay video next monday
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given the prices you have to pay for the games, i fail to see any benefit whatsoever

wouldn't you be better off with an xbox plus a $10/mo subscription?
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TOS wrote: given the prices you have to pay for the games, i fail to see any benefit whatsoever

wouldn't you be better off with an xbox plus a $10/mo subscription?


The supposed benefit of this is that you can play on any device anywhere, basically whatever can run google chrome, your console stays at home. You don't need to buy the controller/chromecast combo.

The benefit of the console is that your games will be yours, forever (uh... if you get a physical copy, these days I'm not sure that's always possible) also, your games will always look and play as good as they should (stadia depends on the speed, latency, and reliability of whatever connection to the internet you're using at the moment.
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Oh, and one more thing against stadia that is being pointed out by many people around the internet, and they're not wrong: if stadia isn't successful enough, soon enough, google will just kill it as it has done with many things in the past.
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Yup, I don't see this platform lasting very long. Developers don't trust it, which means it won't be a huge hit in the first year, resulting in it going doing like the Deepwater Horizon as Google tires of the whole mess.
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Rural internet is iffy so I'm not going to bother checking it out
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Google Stadia Cloud Gaming Review!

The good news:

-Seems to work fine, if your internet can handle it.
-There will be a free version in the future

Bad news

-12 games announced at launch, but google rushed to expand that to 22 games at the last minute.
-Many announced features will come next year.
-Only works on google hardware right now.
-Feels like a beta, says the reviewer.
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Another review

https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/18/209 ... rome-pixel

I didn't really read it, but the points seem to be the same

Not bad, for a beta
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I saw this coming the day it [Stadia] was announced. Google has shut down its Stadia game studios

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sometimes i feel like google's little ventures are some kind of tax dodge or something

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The service isn’t being shut down, yet, just the first party google games. Which surprises me not at all.

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